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Hackeronsteriods: Add section on removing plastic case

2024-06-20T20:11:55Z

Add section on removing plastic case

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	[[File:Full ring printed wheel spikes.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Full ring printed spikes]]		[[File:Full ring printed wheel spikes.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Full ring printed spikes]]
	@Dahefe reports "I printed a set of wheel spikes (full rings - https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes/files) in ABS and they work great! I also changed my NAV areas that are on concrete to make them narrow which make the planner slow down (I think). I can see the spikes wearing down and plan on replacing the rings once a year." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253311235324383272		@Dahefe reports "I printed a set of wheel spikes (full rings - https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes/files) in ABS and they work great! I also changed my NAV areas that are on concrete to make them narrow which make the planner slow down (I think). I can see the spikes wearing down and plan on replacing the rings once a year." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253311235324383272


			== Cutting back the plastic case ==

			The YardForce 5000 has low clearance, and when turning, the contact of the plastic case against the grass is the main source of resistance. Some users have cut away the plastic in the front, or on the sides of the mower, to prevent it from slipping as often.

			@kombo-kevinmce reported "removing fins hanging on front bumper" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236422143114350713

			@ow reported "I cut about 20mm off the skirt on mine, stock ground clearance is ridiculous" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/1079054431758332027/1246930966195208404
			@11phc replied "ditto. Life a lot easier afterwards. Just watch out for small children's toes!" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/1079054431758332027/1246931204536664175

Hackeronsteriods: Add images

2024-06-20T20:00:40Z

Add images

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	=== Adding weight behind the wheels ===		=== Adding weight behind the wheels ===
	@bussel - (bodop) suggested a mod that worked on other mowers, hanging weights off the back with sticks: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1151412390924132362		@bussel - (bodop) suggested a mod that worked on other mowers, hanging weights off the back with sticks: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1151412390924132362
			[[File:Bussel backpack.jpg\|none\|thumb\|@bussel's weight backpack]]

	@tr8 created a printable design for mounting weight behind the wheels, but it is not necessarily YardForce 500 compatible: https://www.printables.com/model/703384-balance-weight-for-yardforce-robotic-mower		@tr8 created a printable design for mounting weight behind the wheels, but it is not necessarily YardForce 500 compatible: https://www.printables.com/model/703384-balance-weight-for-yardforce-robotic-mower

			[[File:Tr8 backpack.jpg\|none\|thumb\|@tr8's weight backpack]]

	== Wheel Spikes ==		== Wheel Spikes ==
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	==== Mibrobo ====		==== Mibrobo ====
	[https://www.mibrobo.de/product/yardforce-classic-500-models-184-mibrobo-blackline-spikes-incl-wheel-extension-eng/119 Mibrobo] spikes are more expensive but are coated and may have a better spike design (?)		[https://www.mibrobo.de/product/yardforce-classic-500-models-184-mibrobo-blackline-spikes-incl-wheel-extension-eng/119 Mibrobo] spikes are more expensive but are coated and may have a better spike design (?)
			[[File:Mibrobo wheel spikes.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Mibrobo wheel spikes]]

	No OpenMower users have reported their experience with them.		No OpenMower users have reported their experience with them.
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	==== Robo Claws ====		==== Robo Claws ====
	[https://robo-spikes.com/en/products/spikes-yardforce-500-600-x100i-aluminium?_pos=1&_sid=6ed7f4433&_ss=r Robo-Claws] spikes are cheaper and have an installation guide as part of the official docs: https://openmower.de/docs/contributions/mount-wheel-spikes/		[https://robo-spikes.com/en/products/spikes-yardforce-500-600-x100i-aluminium?_pos=1&_sid=6ed7f4433&_ss=r Robo-Claws] spikes are cheaper and have an installation guide as part of the official docs: https://openmower.de/docs/contributions/mount-wheel-spikes/
			[[File:S-l1600-15 02.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Robo Claws Spikes]]

	@Vermut reports "can't say they are super-effective for me. Hence the extra weight attempt" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224255287284858900		@Vermut reports "can't say they are super-effective for me. Hence the extra weight attempt" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224255287284858900
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	===== 17mm spikes =====		===== 17mm spikes =====
			[[File:17mm wheel spikes.jpg\|none\|thumb\|17mm printed spikes]]
	@kombo-kevinmce reports "The 17 mm spikes are probably too long and for me they cause the mower to wobble as the spikes are lifting the mower. "		@kombo-kevinmce reports "The 17 mm spikes are probably too long and for me they cause the mower to wobble as the spikes are lifting the mower. "

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	===== full ring spikes =====		===== full ring spikes =====
			[[File:Full ring printed wheel spikes.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Full ring printed spikes]]
	@Dahefe reports "I printed a set of wheel spikes (full rings - https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes/files) in ABS and they work great! I also changed my NAV areas that are on concrete to make them narrow which make the planner slow down (I think). I can see the spikes wearing down and plan on replacing the rings once a year." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253311235324383272		@Dahefe reports "I printed a set of wheel spikes (full rings - https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes/files) in ABS and they work great! I also changed my NAV areas that are on concrete to make them narrow which make the planner slow down (I think). I can see the spikes wearing down and plan on replacing the rings once a year." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253311235324383272

Hackeronsteriods: Add wheel weight images

2024-06-20T19:49:45Z

Add wheel weight images

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	The Yardforce 500 wheels are hollow, and you can place extra weight inside the wheels. Although this will not move the center of mass as much as placing the weight behind the wheels, it has the advantage of not stressing the bearings/bushings with the extra weight.		The Yardforce 500 wheels are hollow, and you can place extra weight inside the wheels. Although this will not move the center of mass as much as placing the weight behind the wheels, it has the advantage of not stressing the bearings/bushings with the extra weight.

	@kombo-kevinmce created a 3D printed design for compartments inside the wheels to contain lead balls or other weights. Each wheel fits about 1200g: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236423223705600120 https://www.printables.com/model/533638-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-weight		@kombo-kevinmce created a 3D printed design for compartments inside the wheels to contain lead balls or other weights. Each wheel fits about 1200g: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236423223705600120 https://www.printables.com/model/533638-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-weight
			[[File:Kombo-kevinmce wheel weight.jpg\|thumb\|none\|Kombo-kevinmce's wheel weight design.]]

	@Prigor used wheel balancing weights packed inside the wheels to add 1560g to each wheel: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236716061928198334		@Prigor used wheel balancing weights packed inside the wheels to add 1560g to each wheel: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236716061928198334
			[[File:Prigor wheel weights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|@Prigor's wheel weights]]

	@CSobel added lead balls embedded in epoxy to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1106556852491255838		@CSobel added lead balls embedded in epoxy to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1106556852491255838
			[[File:CSobel wheel weights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|@CSobel's wheel weights]]

	@Vermut added steel flakes embedded in silicon sealant: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224050218983751741		@Vermut added steel flakes embedded in silicon sealant: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224050218983751741
			[[File:Vermut wheel weights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|@Vermut's wheel weights]]

	@Ow added lead sheets to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961804411112394842/1118625329309814784		@Ow added lead sheets to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961804411112394842/1118625329309814784

Hackeronsteriods: /* Adding weight behind the wheels */

2024-06-20T19:38:47Z

Adding weight behind the wheels

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	@bussel - (bodop) suggested a mod that worked on other mowers, hanging weights off the back with sticks: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1151412390924132362		@bussel - (bodop) suggested a mod that worked on other mowers, hanging weights off the back with sticks: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1151412390924132362

	@tr8 created a printable design for mounting weight behind the wheels: https://www.printables.com/model/703384-balance-weight-for-yardforce-robotic-mower		@tr8 created a printable design for mounting weight behind the wheels, but it is not necessarily YardForce 500 compatible: https://www.printables.com/model/703384-balance-weight-for-yardforce-robotic-mower

	== Wheel Spikes ==		== Wheel Spikes ==

Hackeronsteriods: /* 17mm spikes */ Add quote from Prigor

2024-06-20T19:30:16Z

17mm spikes: Add quote from Prigor

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	===== 17mm spikes =====		===== 17mm spikes =====
	@kombo-kevinmce reports "The 17 mm spikes are probably too long and for me they cause the mower to wobble as the spikes are lifting the mower. "		@kombo-kevinmce reports "The 17 mm spikes are probably too long and for me they cause the mower to wobble as the spikes are lifting the mower. "

			@Prigor reports "I also tried these printed spikes from @kombo-kevinmce but I found them to be too bumpy." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253295856413577318

	===== dual spikes =====		===== dual spikes =====

Hackeronsteriods: /* Metal Spikes */

2024-06-20T19:28:28Z

Metal Spikes

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	@Prigor reports "I had metal spikes for a long time and they were good on grass but got rounded after one year of use and started slipping. And they were terrible on anything concrete or hard" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253295856413577318		@Prigor reports "I had metal spikes for a long time and they were good on grass but got rounded after one year of use and started slipping. And they were terrible on anything concrete or hard" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253295856413577318

	===== Self-Printed =====		==== Self-Printed ====
	Other users have suggested making your own spikes following a similar design on a CNC or laser cutter. There aren't any reports of users doing this.		Other users have suggested making your own spikes following a similar design on a CNC or laser cutter. There aren't any reports of users doing this.

Hackeronsteriods: Created page with "A common problem with OpenMower mowers (particularly the YardForce 500) is a lack of traction. This can cause the wheels to slip, especially when turning, and can cause the mower to become stuck. The YardForce 500 is underweight for its wheels, and the issue can be exacerbated if the yard is sloped, bumpy, or soft. There are a number of modifications people have experimented with to try to improve the traction. == Adding Weight == This is the most highly recommended a..."

2024-06-20T19:27:44Z

Created page with "A common problem with OpenMower mowers (particularly the YardForce 500) is a lack of traction. This can cause the wheels to slip, especially when turning, and can cause the mower to become stuck. The YardForce 500 is underweight for its wheels, and the issue can be exacerbated if the yard is sloped, bumpy, or soft. There are a number of modifications people have experimented with to try to improve the traction. == Adding Weight == This is the most highly recommended a..."

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A common problem with OpenMower mowers (particularly the YardForce 500) is a lack of traction. This can cause the wheels to slip, especially when turning, and can cause the mower to become stuck. The YardForce 500 is underweight for its wheels, and the issue can be exacerbated if the yard is sloped, bumpy, or soft. There are a number of modifications people have experimented with to try to improve the traction.

== Adding Weight ==
This is the most highly recommended approach on the YardForce 500. Moving the center of mass back towards the driving wheels is the primary goal.

=== Adding weight inside the wheels ===
The Yardforce 500 wheels are hollow, and you can place extra weight inside the wheels. Although this will not move the center of mass as much as placing the weight behind the wheels, it has the advantage of not stressing the bearings/bushings with the extra weight.

@kombo-kevinmce created a 3D printed design for compartments inside the wheels to contain lead balls or other weights. Each wheel fits about 1200g: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236423223705600120 https://www.printables.com/model/533638-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-weight

@Prigor used wheel balancing weights packed inside the wheels to add 1560g to each wheel: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1236716061928198334

@CSobel added lead balls embedded in epoxy to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1106556852491255838

@Vermut added steel flakes embedded in silicon sealant: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224050218983751741

@Ow added lead sheets to the wheels: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961804411112394842/1118625329309814784

=== Adding weight behind the wheels ===
@bussel - (bodop) suggested a mod that worked on other mowers, hanging weights off the back with sticks: https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1151412390924132362

@tr8 created a printable design for mounting weight behind the wheels: https://www.printables.com/model/703384-balance-weight-for-yardforce-robotic-mower

== Wheel Spikes ==
Some people have also had success with mounting longer spikes on their wheels to get better traction. Note that if you add spikes, it will likely change the wheel radius and so you will need to update the wheel ticks parameter in order to not have jerky motion.

=== Metal Spikes ===
There are two brands of commercially available aluminum spikes, Mibrobo, and Robo-Claws

==== Mibrobo ====
[https://www.mibrobo.de/product/yardforce-classic-500-models-184-mibrobo-blackline-spikes-incl-wheel-extension-eng/119 Mibrobo] spikes are more expensive but are coated and may have a better spike design (?)

No OpenMower users have reported their experience with them.

==== Robo Claws ====
[https://robo-spikes.com/en/products/spikes-yardforce-500-600-x100i-aluminium?_pos=1&_sid=6ed7f4433&_ss=r Robo-Claws] spikes are cheaper and have an installation guide as part of the official docs: https://openmower.de/docs/contributions/mount-wheel-spikes/

@Vermut reports "can't say they are super-effective for me. Hence the extra weight attempt" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1224255287284858900

@Prigor reports "I had metal spikes for a long time and they were good on grass but got rounded after one year of use and started slipping. And they were terrible on anything concrete or hard" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253295856413577318

===== Self-Printed =====
Other users have suggested making your own spikes following a similar design on a CNC or laser cutter. There aren't any reports of users doing this.

=== Plastic Spikes ===
@kombo-kevinmce Created designs for a few different 3D printed plastic spikes: https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes

===== 17mm spikes =====
@kombo-kevinmce reports "The 17 mm spikes are probably too long and for me they cause the mower to wobble as the spikes are lifting the mower. "

===== dual spikes =====
@kombo-kevinmce reports "They worked about the same as the larger id say" https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253228544234885221

===== full ring spikes =====
@Dahefe reports "I printed a set of wheel spikes (full rings - https://www.printables.com/model/567409-yardforce-classic-500-wheel-spikes/files) in ABS and they work great! I also changed my NAV areas that are on concrete to make them narrow which make the planner slow down (I think). I can see the spikes wearing down and plan on replacing the rings once a year." https://discord.com/channels/958476543846412329/961803746399101008/1253311235324383272